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Rumplestiltskin
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 Posted - 03/12/2008 : 1:34:08 PM
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admin721
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Hello Everyone!
As you may have found out, there will be no more "Feedbacks" posted on the TWULocal721.org website. We are funneling everyone here to this "721" Bulletin Board to have them post here for everyone's viewing and replying pleasures.
We will move all past Posts and Responses to this area of the BB as we remove them from the TWULocal721.org website. They will be noted as "ARCHIVED POST".
Please note that any "links" used in the original posts/replies will NOT work now, as they are not carrying over. Yes, we could fix them, and maybe in time we will, but this is already a big undertaking. Thanks for your understanding and patience.
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:19:34 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #442 Organizing Committee 1-1-08:
NLRB DECISION on "Wynn Las Vegas' 4-Count Federal Law Violation of the National Labor Relations Act" >>> CLICK HERE <<<
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:20:18 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #443 A Graveyard Dealer 1-1-08:
I am writing this letter to, yes my work friends in management. JW is leading you to the Hoover Dam, be careful. He will soon be in Mesquite NV on his 50 plus acre ranch while the rest of you will be looking for work. Why would I say this? Well just read the ruling that came out of SF labor relation board ruling on Wynn V Cynthia Fields and others. It looks and sound exactly like the things Harrah's are forcing you all to do. It is time for you all to say no and join us in our battle to protect your futures.
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Yes, the NLRB found that Wynn was in violation on all accounts except the dismissal of Fields (and we believe that is because she discredited herself in several statements, otherwise the NLRB may have found Wynn was in violation in that situation as well).
Although the "punishment" was to place "notices" in conspicuous places, who knows what kind of collateral damage may result to the offenders.
Creating what appears as a "hostile work environment" by managers serves no purpose other than for them to catch all of the "heat" if/when it comes down. If they are "separated" from the company because of their actions, we all know how small of a town this is, and will another casino be willing to hire someone who may be perceived as "disruptive" or "responsible" for NLRB violations?
We won the election by a landslide. Now is not the time to try to "punish" people, but rather a time to come together. The election results is evidence enough that the Dealers wanted/needed change in our working conditions. To further aggravate the situation just makes the Dealers stronger in the end.
We have advised EVERY Dealer to start keeping daily diaries >>> HERE <<<. Paper trails are being created. Keep in mind, we now have an "extension" to the HR Department...A UNION.
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:21:35 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #444 A Flamingo Dealer 1-1-08:
Flamingo Dealer: We are having daily anti union talks during our pre shift meetings. In the pits are pre-printed letters addressed to the TWU requesting that authorization cards be returned at our home addresses. We were just informed today that we must attend a mandatory meeting this week, but holy cow we will be paid $23+/hr to attend rather than the pittance they normally pay. I guess that's cheaper than the 4% increase in pay we got last time the dealers tried to organize here.
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Thanks for the Feedback!
So, the Flamingo is providing "form" letters for the Dealers there to request their Authorization Cards back huh? Why would a Dealer want to stop the process to a more secure future? Funny!
$23-an-hour to attend their MANDATORY "captive audience" meeting huh? Wow! Maybe you should all ask them to make that your "normal" wage, and see what kind of response you get.
Please save ALL flyers that the Flamingo puts out. Take pictures of any "postings" they may make as well (phones are good for that). Then provide everything to the Las Vegas Dealers Local 721 so they can have a "paper trail" on the Flamingo management. They just may be breaking Federal Law. Read post #50 below for more information. To see JUST the post Wynn is now ordered to post, >>> CLICK HERE <<< Document EVERYTHING they say and do.
Remember Flamingo Dealers, management there wants to maintain 100% control over you and your working conditions. Today they will be your "best buddies" (who were they a year ago?) and if they are successful in turning you away from securing your future, you will see them revert back to who they have always been. We know you are all smarter than that, don't be fooled.
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:22:24 PM
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Post #445 Palace Court Dealer 1-2-08:
I am truly amazed at the petty and vindictive nature of our current ACM's, especially since they have no vested interest whether we as dealers are union or not. One would think, after the overwhelming majority vote, that management would realize there is a big problem. Instead of making lists of people to target and making notations of petty violations, they would want to address the problems that pushed dealers to unionize.
They certainly need to resolve the lack of communication from shift to shift and to train their ever overturning floor supervisors properly. Instead of sending them to train on how to look for violations dealers may commit, you should teach them how to write markers and to transfer balances at the count and how to get a players line of credit when he sits down instead of waiting till he/she asks for the marker and then calling, or how to do win/walk!! We all need to strive towards giving our customers the best service possible and that just isn't happening with the lack of qualified staff that has been recently hired. No one wants to work the floor at Caesars Palace because every one in town knows it is the worst floor job in town...WHY!!! How did this happen to such a well oiled machine? Why did you fix something that wasn't broken?
When Harrah's took over, Caesars Palace had the top CSA scores of any property, and in just over a year ..look at what has happened! Whose fault is it? We would all like some answers as to how our hotel has fallen into such dire straits! Who can answer these questions and what is going to be done about it? Our customers are very unhappy and I can tell you...it isn't the dealers that they are upset about.
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One thing that us becoming Union is going to do is give us more security. It will help protect us from the petty BS. THAT is why certain ACM's (not all of them) have a problem. They feel they are going to lose "control" over the Dealers. Unfortunately, we have certain ACM's who think that being "boss" is about discipline. They do not realize that their job is about keeping the machine "oiled". How is the machine "oiled"? By keeping both the customers and employees happy. By ensuring that ALL employees are properly trained to do the jobs they are assigned to. By communicating. By helping those who need assistance. By understanding the business. True leaders are NOT disciplinarians. Smart decision making mixed with care and understanding is what makes a great leader. Treating adults like children is like trying to put an oil fire out with water.
What every Dealer must realize is that there are a few who would rather find fault than find solutions. They don't care about taking care of the customers at Caesars Palace, they just care if you are shuffling checks or fiddling with a pen on a dead game or not. That is all they are capable of. They are proving it every day now.
Does anyone remember the first CSA score of the Dealers when Harrah's came in? It was like 117! If the CSA manager was really doing their job and deducing the data they are being paid to collect, they would want to know why it has dropped so dramatically.
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:23:20 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #446 A Dealer 1-2-08:
Corporate shill and management dogs-body GG saw fit to write up a dealer on swing shift. Watch out for this lickspittle. Mind your p's and q's when around her. She seeks to curry favor with management at every opportunity. Hey GG how's that raise coming? The 1800 dollar bonus' been reinstated? Gettin' paid for that sixth day? No? I'm sure a few more write-ups will get them back for ya. Keep on truckin' your kids must be proud.
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We have tried to refrain from using peoples names on this website, even when we have known them. However, certain people persist in trying to make life miserable for others. When that is the case, when we are provided their names, we will no longer edit them. This is so that every Dealer at Caesars Palace can be forewarned about them. We will not use their full names, unless of course they are Executives who may be breaking the Law or need discredited for twisting things out of proportion.
We know there have been MANY complaints about the person named in the above post. We see her in the pits not with a smile on her face, but with an evil starring glare. Where is her "upbeat and positive" attitude? Smiles? Not when she is watching a game or hawking a Dealer. But if she sees a "boss" near, then she may crack a smile. Answer a shuffle request or a buy-in? No way.
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:25:11 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #447 Mr. Floorman (part 1 and part 2 combined) 1-2-08:
I am a pissed off Floor.
I take great pride in my job and I take great pride in the Caesars Palace name. At one time the Caesars Palace business card that we all carry had a lot of clout. Why? Because people who were allowed to carry it always conducted themselves with class. Showing a Caesars Palace business card would always open doors for the ones lucky enough to carry one. I have seen that card lose its significance over the last few years. I am now almost embarrassed to pull it out and feel like it would close more doors now than open.
The person I hold the most responsible for this is of course J.... W... . Looking back on his career, it is frightening to see all the devastation he has caused. The Hilton, once a classy joint, is now insignificant. J....'s dealers had to bring the T.W.U. to Vegas, as he completely divided his work force, destroyed moral and eventually destroyed that casino and its bottom line. At Bally's it was the same story. I hope Harrah's didn't think they were getting a Caesars Man when they inherited J.... . His practices have never been accepted at Caesars Palace.
I have invested too much of my life upholding the Caesars Palace name to see it go down like The Hilton and Bally's. I am calling for the immediate resignation of J.... W... . I'm sure that the 85% of dealers and the vast majority of Floor who support T.W.U feel the same. WE need leadership that can put the casino staff back together again. As I worked side by side with our now union dealers this holiday, I sensed that was their desire as well. How could anyone ever think our casino floor could run efficiently with dealers and floor at odds and ends with each other?
The dealers at Caesars Palace are very talented, professional and their experience provides myself and Caesars Palace and invaluable asset. They are also my friends. Under the J.... W... regime we have been forbidden to say that. Let me say it again, they are my friends.
I would like to go on record under this forum to say I have provided the T.W.U representatives first hand info that J.... W... and certain A.C.M.'s have compiled retaliatory lists which contain certain peoples names who they think are responsible for the unions success. I will not stand to see personal vengeance divide our work place. Let me assure you the vast majority of floor supervisors feel the same way.
It really upsets me to still hear A.C.M's say " I cant believe we lost the election". You did not lose the election! It was the anti-union lawyers job to make you believe it was a vote against you but it was not. The dealers voted against fear and intimidation. They voted against division and voted for unity. They are just trying to bring the casino team back together again. I have to mention one A.C.M. that must not believe in team play. Sharron D....... has been heard by several supervisors who have gone on record of having been told by her " wait to you see what we do to the dealers now". As a manager it makes me uncomfortable working in a place where federal laws are being broken. Sharron you are well liked by many, but you have no support in your crusade. Many supervisors are upset that at the height of our busy season you are more concerned about union retaliation than helping us and running our casino. If managing in this fashion is the only way your capable of, then you should tender your resignation as well. Lets put the past behind us and move forward together.
Respectfully,
A Caesars Palace Floorman
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This Readers post was originally cut-off. They have resubmitted the rest of their feedback, so we have attached it to the original to complete it in it's entirety.
We ARE friends with most all of the Floor at Caesars Palace. Always have been and always will be.
We remember when the business card of a Floor at Caesars Palace was very unique. It had die-cut edges and was very distinctive. But, through all of the cost-cutting measures it is now just a plain printed card. Those cards were VERY HARD to ever get, even from a Caesars Palace Floor. They were only handed out to very special guests and yes, they carried a LOT of weight. Those were the days.
Many, many times we have said here, and in person, that when the Dealers chose to be Union that is was NOT a personal attack on any of our supervisors. Our ACM's are NOT the corporation. They can NOT sign a binding legal contract between the Dealers and Caesars Palace. They should realize that by us organizing it will benefit them financially too! If every Dealer and every Floorperson has a contract, then this will force the corporations to provide a contract to ACM's as well! Keep in mind, you get two days off each week (under normal circumstances) ONLY BECAUSE OF UNIONS! You work 40 hours a week ONLY BECAUSE OF UNIONS!
We have new owners coming in again very soon. Each time this has happened we have always had high hopes, but more times than not have been let down. Yet again, we hope that the new owners will heed our words and actions and make some adjustments that will benefit all of us AND Caesars Palace.
We would like to remind EVERY Floor person that they CAN send in Authorization cards and YES they CAN form their own Union. We would be more than happy to help, as will the TWU. Imagine, BOTH the Floor and the Dealers being Union and having contracts! Now THAT'S BUSINESS!
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:26:05 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #448 A 21 Dealer 1-2-08:
I just read the post on what Wynn has to do, put up memos to let everyone know that he violated law? I don't get it! What about Cynthia? Everyone knows that the reason she was fired was because she stood up to Wynn. I have known that girl for 15 years and she is not one to just walk out on a job. Where are her rights? How much are they going to let that guy get away with?
EVERYONE who is a dealer in this town...We need clout! We need what Wynn has! We need power! And the only way we are going to get that is with a union! Send in your cards! Lest you end up being terminated unjustly!
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We read the entire report on Wynn's violations. A VERY long read. The judge gave reasoning for his decision in every part of his decision. We believe that if Cynthia had NOT made the statements about having talked to a fictitious attorney, she may have prevailed too. However, because of her statements about speaking to an attorney who did not exist, it ruined her credibility.
We do totally agree when the Reader writes, "EVERYONE who is a dealer in this town...We need clout! We need what Wynn has! We need power! And the only way we are going to get that is with a union! Send in your cards! Lest you end up being terminated unjustly!"
It is time NOW for every Dealer in Las Vegas to stand up and be counted. Do NOT let them intimidate you or lie to you any longer. Do it for yourself, your family and your future. Release the unneeded "stress" that management places on you. SIGN A CARD TODAY!
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:27:11 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #449 A 21 Dealer 1-3-08:
To The Flamingo Dealers:
Stay Strong-Network-Don't be Scared-We will be with you the whole way. Sure you will have to endure some petty BS but it is all worth it...believe me...it is all worth it...You will be so proud of yourselves and such a feeling of relief once you vote the union in. And the strength and power that is felt has never been felt by dealers before. Stay strong and send in your cards.
Remember don't be too hard on the people that are hesitant...we have had years of conditioning to not think for ourselves...just state the facts!!!
Vote YES on the union...POWER IN NUMBERS AND SOLIDARITY!!!
signed.... your friends at Caesars Palace
RESPONSE:
Yes, now that we have voted the Union in we can see a lot less stress amongst the Dealers. It is a great relief knowing very soon we will be on our way to a contract and everything else which comes with being organized. We see a LOT of pride in the Dealers again.
When the Reader writes, "Remember don't be too hard on the people that are hesitant...we have had years of conditioning to not think for ourselves...just state the facts!!! ", excellent advise. If a Dealer does seem hesitant to talk about the Union, leave them be. Do NOT bother anyone who is not fully interested or requests you not talk about it to them. Do NOT make them your enemy or put them on your s..t list. Treat them with respect and honor their opinion. Listen as much as you talk with Dealers. Try not to force feed them your stance of being pro-union, but let them be aware of the benefits. Many Dealers at Caesars Palace were "fence sitters" who fell to the Union side when given space to make their own decision.
We know there are "clicks" which Dealers belong to. Maybe you are part of them, maybe you are not. Now is the time to break down barriers though. Sit with those you haven't sat much with before and talk to them to see where they stand. Do a LOT of listening. Make sure everyone is aware of the Wynn situation and their tokes. Also make everyone is aware of the Palazzo/Venetian situation (they split 1200 ways New Years and we have heard they made $120 that night), and ask everyone if they want to split with every property who is non-union within Harrah's.
Do not let management's lies and half-truths persuade any of you. Point out the facts. Management will try to take you off course by steering away from the facts. They have already tried by paying all of you $23 an hour for your mandatory meeting. Does that one time hour of $23 change your lives? They will also try to correct things which cost them nothing in an attempt to show you they care. Ask yourselves "why now" and why not before any talk of Union? We know that management hasn't cared for any of you, so ask yourselves, "Why are they putting on the facade of caring now and why are they against us organizing and securing our futures if they really care about us"?
Stay STRONG, Stay FOCUSED and Stay UNITED.
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:27:54 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #450 A Full-time Dealer 1-4-08:
It seems that there are a number of ACM's who are hell-bent on trying to make life miserable for us now. They have provided the Floor with a list of things to watch the dealers for and to call the office and report them. Okay, we can all play that game now.
I think that whenever it appears to us that a customer has had to much to drink that we all report it. We should also report any player who may appear to have a gambling problem. If any customer swears, report it. If there is a mistake on the schedule, report it. If we do not get approvals for change or shuffles, report it. Report EVERYTHING!
To do it properly, request an "Incident Report" from your Floor and write it down. Do NOT turn it in immediately, instead take it home, make a copy, then bring it back in the following shift and turn it in.
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Good idea! Let's create a paper trail on them as well! In addition, if you have a fax machine, fax your copy to Las Vegas Dealers Union Local 721 at 476-0649.
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:28:34 PM
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Post #451 A Full-time Dealer 1-4-08:
In response to the JW tactics being implemented to bring us to our knees - which by the way is against the federal laws to retaliate- I say-LETS DANCE!!!
Mr. Selesner if you are reading these posts, it sure would be nice if you called a meeting with some of the floor and dealers to see what J.W. is really all about. He is putting our supervisors under immense pressure to write us up for anything because he can't stand it because we voted for the union.
We voted in the union to protect our money because unfortunately, we have been through so many sales and Presidents and Table Games Managers that we cannot rely on the word of who is our leaders at this time.
J.W. however, is taking it very personal and is creating a very horrid and harassing work environment. For every complaint or counseling we will be going to HR and/or filing ULP's and if no relief comes talking with corporate HR to see who is violating the law. We have every right by federal law to unionize without harassment- and harassment is what game J.W. has in play at this time!
Many of us have family members serving in the military at this time, as well as many dealers who are veterans who served to insure our freedom of speech and right to work in an harassment free environment.
Please pull the leash in on your Table Games Manager as no one wants this type of work place. We just want to work and service our guests over and beyond what is required so we can remain a top name in gaming.
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The ONLY thing that is resulting from the harassment tactics is the proof of our need for a Union. If all of a sudden, someone who has had no previous write-ups is starting to compile them, this is evidence of harassment and ULP's WILL be filed. And when we have numerous ULP's filed, how will that sit with negotiations and the NLRB? It will demonstrate that Harrah's is NOT bargaining in good faith. Many times during the mandatory meetings, the spokesperson stated that Harrah's has no problem negotiating with Unions, so then, now we are Union what's the problem? Proof that corporate's word means nothing, and you wanted us to "wait and see" what happens at the Wynn?
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:29:34 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #452 A 21 Dealer 1-5-08:
Hey Gang, We are officially certified! Make sure you familiarize yourselves with the Weingarten Rights so you will know your rights. They are writing us up for stupid things, however, since we are all new to this, we will also have to learn what the shop stewards and representatives can do, so be patient while they all learn! We know it is hard and there is pressure, but just do your job as the professionals that you are. WE WILL GET THERE!!!
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The Reader is correct, this is all new to everyone. There will be "temporary" Shop Stewards (until we can have the proper elections) appointed very soon and CP will be provided with their names, as will all of you. Until then, if you are called into the office for any questioning which may result in disciplinary action, please request an In-House Organizer to join you in the meeting.
Please, for your benefit, everyone read you Weingarten Rights >>> HERE <<< and do NOT hesitate to use them. They are YOUR Federal Rights now!
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Rumplestiltskin
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:30:23 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #453 A Full-Time Dealer 1-9-08:
Hello Flamingo Dealers,
We know they are holding "captive audiences" with you and threatening a lot of things...most of what they say is illegal so you must educate yourselves and get busy.
1. Put out some flyers with the new website address of the Caesars Palace Dealers...TWULocal721@.org...there is a lot of good information and you can print out the cards to sign and no one ever knows.
2.Print out some " KNOW WHAT YOUR EMPLOYER CANNOT DO" flyers so everyone starts to know their rights. You can find them on our website under the NLRB VIOLATIONS button.
3. You need some In House Organizers on each shift to educate and talk without being scared because people will listen.
4.Take pictures with your cell phones of any threatening signs they put up.
5. Carry a diary and possibly a tape recorder with you and record incidents as you hear them or are involved in.
6. Tell them it is an Unfair Labor Practice to ask what your opinion of the union or how you may feel about it.
7/ You can file an Unfair Labor Practice
(ULP) with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) at www.nlrb.gov . They will provide you with the form and instructions on how to fill it out and call the Local 721 at 702-476-0648.
REMEMBER NOW IS THE TIME SO DON'T DROP THE BALL!! WE NEED ALL OF OUR CASINOS TO STAND TO TOGETHER AND BE STRONG.
EDUCATION IS THE KEY...SO PUT OUT YOUR FLIERS TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THEIR RIGHTS.
WE ARE WITH YOU...DEALERS OF CAESARS!
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Good advice from the Reader!
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:31:42 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #456 A Caesars Palace In-House Organizer 1-11-08:
I just wanted to commend Rumpelstiltskin for his ever changing and growing website. My fellow dealers, you should be so thankful that we have someone that is willing to donate his/her time for the benefit of all. I just wanted to say thank you and EXCELLENT WORK.
The internet has been "KEY" in this union drive and will continue to be so. It affords dealers the privacy some need to stick up for themselves but I hope dealers all over town will stand up and say" YES- I WANT UNION REPRESENTATION.
Now moving forward, for those that are interested in being a shop steward or working on the "political side" of our adventure, please contact an IHO.
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There will be more changes coming to the website soon. Eventually we will have all of the "forms" loaded up on the site which Dealers may need too. There is a LOT of work to be done, and so little time to do it all, but be patient and it will all get done eventually.
Within the next few days the Feedback from Caesars Palace Dealers will be moved to the page dedicated to Caesars Palace. So, if you come here to read feedbacks, click on the Caesars Palace Dealers button on the home page to find it.
Also, if you want to be involved in the Union in any capacity, contact an IHO and provide them with your personal contact information. They in turn will provide it to the Local 721 people so everything can be coordinated. But please, be patient, as there is a LOT going on. You may not be contacted "next week", but you will be contacted. Eventually, all will be running "smooth as silk".
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:32:36 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #457 A Caesars Palace 21 Dealer 1-13-08:
Dealers here and to the north our time has come and that time is now! The only way to truly and permanently effect change in our work place is to unite ALL dealers! The way to the casinos wallets is through the table games. Once we have an overwhelming majority of dealers unionized, is when we have the ability to impact the casinos bottom line. Look at the Culinary Union's 60,000 member. When they take a strike vote (which takes 50% + 1 of the members votes) the casinos take a collective gasp in fear! If they fear the walk out of maids, porters and cooks then think how much they'll sweat when we have the same power? You can bet they're thinking about it and they are scared to death! Only when we unionize all or at least the majority of casino dealers could we confidently call for a strike, ensuring absolute victory! The strike vote is the true power that the casinos fear. Individually we don't have this power and that's the way the casinos want it . That's why the Frontier got a weak contract. Because we didn't rally behind them. But remember, they did get a contract and even the worst contract in the world is still a contract in the world! It's a start and every unions first contract is just a first step! That's why they are asking you to "to wait and see what happens at the Wynn or Caesars." If they can keep us separated, then they have weakened us. They are trying to stop the "end game," TOTAL DEALER UNIONIZATION, the situation they fear the most and the situation that holds the key to our futures! As long as we don't see this the casinos are safe but, that's changing as we speak. More and more casinos are unionizing and the veil of ignorance is being lifted from our eyes. We are using the internet to educate ourselves and not taking the lies management is feeding us as fact and do they ever lie!
We are each, in a sense, experienced and seasoned pilots but we are treated like flight attendants. Without our skills (remember most of us deal multiple games that took years to master) the planes are grounded shutting down the skies. This situation would crush the casinos costing them BILLIONS a day! They can replace one of us or hundreds of us but, they can't replace 10,000 of us and they can't replace us with a maid or a line cook. That's our "end game," that's when we get company paid health care, pension plans and Presidential candidates asking for our votes just like our union brothers and sisters. So, now you see that when we all unite we will have the power to make great changes but it starts with you! Send in your card today and get involved! Union!
RESPONSE:
This reader has hit the nail on the head!
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:33:25 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #458 A Caesars Palace IHO 1-13-08:
Dealers of Caesars Palace:
I know we have been conditioned to think we have no recourse when we are called into the office-but it is a new time!!!
WE ARE UNION!!
Please, ask for a shop steward when you are called in!
We would never have let a dealer sign a resignation if we had been in the office with them!
Please--come to the meetings so you can learn your rights as a union member-get involved- ask questions- the in-house organizers are serving as temporary shop stewards until we have elections! We are all learning but don't give yourselves away!!! Ask for representation from a shop steward if you are called into the office!! They can no longer bully dealers into signing paperwork!
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Exactly right! Everyone MUST keep in mind, no matter how you voted, WE ARE UNION NOW and many things are going to change for us, all for the better.
What happened last week with the Dealer on Swing, Mary Ann F. may have been prevented if she had a shop steward in the office with her.
Once a Dealer is pulled into the office and they are asked ONE question, the dealer should at that point request a shop steward. Management MUST stop the meeting and get a steward in the office. Remember, a shop steward has investigatory rights. They must be presented with all evidence and witnesses. This is the LAW we are protected by now.
This week there will be a mail-out by the Union describing these rights. Also will be included a Ballot to vote for our Negotiating Committee Members. The sooner we get the Committee members, the sooner we get to the table and the sooner we get a contract. Please, watch your mailboxes and promptly return your Ballots.
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ARCHIVED Post #459 A Caesars Palace 21 Dealer 1-15-08:
Dealers, we know you are hearing that the TWU will come to your homes and ask to talk to you, not true, or that the TWU is nothing but baggage handlers when they control every train, subway or bus route in NYC, no easy task I can assure you.
How about the TWU being started by Communists... Ha! They will stop at nothing.
Hey, how about this one, "what does the TWU know about dealing?" The TWU has thousands of years of knowledge as soon as the Wynn and Caesars dealers joined and will have thousands more when you join. Let me ask you this one, how much dealing experience does Gary Loveman have and he is representing all Harrah's dealers?
How about this one," in negotiations you could win some things or lose what you already have"??? Would you vote for a contract that gave you less than you have now... any of you? Crazy corporations!
How about the one were the NYC President Roger Toussaint was thrown in jail for breaking a state labor law? What they didn't tell you was that labor law wouldn't let them strike for a better contract in NYC but, they did anyway! They shut down the city and got the best contract in TWU history! I pray that we have a president willing to go to jail for us! D. Taylor, President of the Las Vegas Culinary, has been arrested over 30 times for his people! That's the way it works, sometimes you have to act up to get what you want but, only when you have the numbers behind you.
I like the one about the TWU losing members? This statistic was taken after an airline merger and TWU members were taken in by another union.
How about the NYC TWU losing money? The state judge, an antiunion appointee, fined the TWU 2 million and stopped direct payment from members pay checks for union dues, disrupting their flow of money.
The lies never stop and they will keep coming so, do your research on anything management says.
At your captive meetings you can ask questions or you remain silent, they have no questions or answers for silence. Then, come to this site and bomb the **** out of them!
Remember, during the election management is not allowed within 75 feet of the polls and can not be an observer! You will win the election if you make sure to get all of your yes votes out of the house and to the polls on their day off.
We have the passion and fire in our hearts and it will show and blow you away after the election! It sure did at Caesars! We thought it would be much closer than it was but, wow!
Stay tough, stay strong and send in a card! We will own this town! Union yes!
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Keep in mind, Unions are ALL "NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS"! You can even write off your union dues from your taxes!
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:35:06 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #460 A Caesars Palace 21 Dealer 1-15-08:
As a dealer at Caesar's Palace, I must admit, that although I knew we needed a union more than anything, I was afraid that if I signed a TWU card, everyone in the world would know, especially management, who I was afraid of the most, so I was very reluctant to send one in. PLEASE DON'T FEEL LIKE I DID ! The sooner you get your cards in, the faster you can protect yourselves. MANAGEMENT WILL NOT KNOW OR FIND OUT, UNLESS YOU, YOURSELF TELL THEM, AND EVERYONE ELSE YOU DID.
If you want to remain anonymous, be careful who you talk to. Management, I have learned from experience, with what we went through, will go to all time lows, even breaking federal laws, and buy off people, dealers that you work with, to spread rumors and lies on their behalf, to spy on you and report everything back to them. Unfortunately, some of us here at Caesar's learned this out the hard way. People we had always thought were our "friends", or someone we had always got along with, ended up being our worst nightmare.
I was also one of those dealers who was afraid to write in and leave feedback or ask questions on the website. I definitely didn't trust it. I figured, if I say or ask anything, someone will somehow trace it back to me. I will definitely be fingered out. PUT THOSE FEARS TO REST. I decided to trust someone at work, and let me tell you how hard that was, but I knew the character of this person, and had known him a long time. He told me without a doubt I could write things in anonymously and not worry, so I took a shot at it. He was right, nothing happened, so I did it again, and well, whenever I felt the need to say something, I'd sit at the computer, and type another feedback, and then another, etc .....
If you have something to get off your chest, or something to say that you feel will help your fellow dealer, THEY NEED TO HEAR YOUR VOICE. If you have a question, something you don't understand, the webmaster will always answer it for you. WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU. Whatever you are going through, We at Caesar's and Wynn have been there, done that, and want you all to know you are not alone, and we're with you every step of the way.
The only time management was nice to us, was during the union drive. Before that ? Nope. During the union drive they were so nice and so concerned for our well being it was kind of creepy. Of course their main concern was the union we picked, which was of course TWU721. Any union but that one would have been fine with them they said. They said we should wait, and at least try and pick a better union to represent us. We weren't falling for that "we should wait" game. Please don't let their "WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING", fool you right now.
They are going to really bad mouth TWU721. Everything they will tell you, they have already told us, and we were able to discredit every single thing they said about TWU. We can show you all the paperwork that proves what management says about TWU is a lie, but I have to say something very important :
You will find that everyone at work has an opinion. The one's for the Union, and the one's against the union. You are going to find out that there are tooooooo many opinions, and then you are going to go on overload. You want the FACTS ? Do what we did at Caesar's. When management tells you something, and gives you their paperwork, etc .... look it up. It is ALL public record. Anyone has access to it. That's how we found out management lied to us about TWU. The paperwork they'll give you, the slideshows, and their version of the story is the complete opposite of the truth. You'll be getting letters in the mail, doing your captive audience meetings, literature at work, from management, etc .... and opinions will be flying. The website is always available for information, with links to information of public records, and if you get too confused and overloaded, I told you how to find the truth and facts for yourself.
Bottom line : Are you really happy with the way things are right now ? If not, then you need to realize, it's not going to get better, only worse, and management is only going to be nice temporarily. Do you think if you vote no for the union, that they'll give you a better healthcare package? job security ? Go by Seniority ? Protect your tokes ? We are dealing with Corporations. Every year, has it been getting better, or a little worse each time ? Wynn set a new precedent, and if he wins in court, do you think the CORPORATIONS won't follow in his suit sooner or later ? I think sooner. If you don't protect yourself now, it will be to late. Corporations are Corporations.
Management will tell you that your 401k, tokes, etc..., will be affected if you vote union. That is not true. I can't begin to tell you the number of lies you will hear, that they will make sound pretty convincing, but they will be lies none the less. What I really loved is when they kept bringing up the Frontier Contract. They will point out everything that the Frontier Contract had in it, how bad it was, and as they go down the list, you realize that, that is exactly what you have right now. It's too funny ....
What has TWU done for us now ? It has allowed us to protect ourselves from what happened to the Wynn dealers, whether or not he wins his case, because we have put ourselves in the position for the dealers to be at the negotiating table. It has made things at Caesar's STATUS QUO. Everything stays the same, nor can they take anything away from us. We are protected, and this is without a contract. How strong is that ? Are we going to negotiate for less than we have now ? NO. This will be our first contract. We don't expect to get everything that someone in the culinary union has, or any other union has, that has been a union member for many years, and has signed many contracts, but we know we won't sign a contract for less than we have now, and hopefully we will get back things that we once had, that were taken away, like better health care, seniority, toke protection, etc ... which is a start, and better than knowing that next year without a union, it will again, be just a little bit worse.
That is why it is so important for all of you dealers to send in your cards today. The stronger we are, the stronger our union is, and the stronger our union is, there is no telling what we can do ..., but if we just stand there, and watch Steve Wynn win his case, and watch all of the other casino's follow suit, because they will. Corporations would be foolish not to. They would do anything to save a buck at their employees expense. We will all be nothing but a distant memory, like a tumbleweed, blowing in the wind, with no one to blame but ourselves, and why ? Because we were afraid ? We weren't sure ? We were confused ?
STAND UP AND BE COUNTED FOR ! VOTE YES FOR THE UNION ! YOU'VE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE !
GO UNION !
GO TWU721
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This reader is correct when they write about anonymity, your information such as email address, name, etc. can NOT be traced to any post that you make. The ONLY way we will know who you are is if you tell us. Even then, if you do provide your information, it will ALWAYS be held confidential and will NEVER be released to anyone.
Nearly every day now we are seeing what the union can do for us, by way of having Shop Stewards, and this is just the beginning.
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:40:08 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #462 A Caesars Palace Dealer 1-21-08:
Hey Gang,
We had it quite for a few days and we were wondering what our "illustrious leadership" has in store for us. Well, as you can see, the rah rah BS for upbeat and positive pre-shift is back. While they are telling us to be upbeat and positive, they are telling our supervisors to write us up for everything...shoes...that we just bought from the safety sales that are coming from our checks...clock in/out that you could sign the exception for now is an infraction no matter if you sign or not...no playing with the chips...no shorties... and SPOTLIGHT 5 IS RETURNING...now go out and be upbeat and positive while our high end casino management team continues to turn our place into a bigger ****-hole than they already have. And for all you little piss ant want to be pit managers that transferred from all these other little **** holes...your time is coming too...enjoy your little bonuses while they are using you up because you will never be promoted!!!! We know you wanted our money...that is why you are pissed because we protected it!!!
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We will be working on some of these issues, like the "shoes". We want to know how we can buy shoes from a vendor they allowed on property, and receive a "safety chip" for our purchases, then be allowed to pay for the shoes through "payroll deduction", and then be told we can not wear those very same shoes. Actually, this may prove to be "useful" NRS 608.165 which reads:
"NRS 608.165 Special uniforms, accessories and cleaning to be furnished without cost to employee. All uniforms or accessories distinctive as to style, color or material shall be furnished, without cost, to employees by their employer. If a uniform or accessory requires a special cleaning process, and cannot be easily laundered by an employee, such employee’s employer shall clean such uniform or accessory without cost to such employee. (Added to NRS by 1975, 1584)"
As for the "Spotlight 5's", well if everyone recalls, we had those BEFORE we started our organizing efforts and they did away with them DURING our organizing campaign to try to persuade us from voting "Yes" for the union. As you can all see, they are bringing them back, just as they would have changed back anything they changed to try to stop us from organizing. However, some things are now "locked in" which they can't change back if they wanted to.
Be patient folks, we will be at the table to discuss issues VERY SOON.
Also, IF you have a "write up" or something similar (maybe perceived "harassment"),
PLEASE DO NOT CALL HR!
CALL THE UNION!
We ARE union now and we have a much better way to handle things then they way we were used to for the past 4 decades. Every one of us MUST change our mindset and know to use the Union when we have problems.
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:40:59 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #463 A Caesars Palace Dealer 1-24-08:
I am so glad to be part of the TWU union! I have been a dealer in Las Vegas for many years and I must say that finally we have hope for our futures! We no longer have to be at the mercy of a corporation! We no longer have to be afraid of having to split our tokes with another casino, or with our supervisors! We can now look forward to negotiating what we need and want, and we don't have to settle for anything that is not good for us!
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We are noticing the Dealers at Caesars Palace have a new upbeat "skip" in their steps now. We see many more Dealers who are happy and "upbeat and positive" now. It is becoming infectious! Happy employees equates to more happy customers, which we all know what that means, better for business and better for tips!
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:44:10 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #464 A Caesars Palace Dealer 1-24-08:
I saw a flyer at work yesterday touting a new series of meetings to be held by management to inform all of us on the upcoming changes and future for 2008. All of the meetings are to take place on days and times AFTER the take-over is complete. The one flyer, looked like from our department said that it is STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that everyone attend, but the company-wide flyer didn't put it that way. I found it kind of funny that they are having meetings on the 30th from 1pm-2pm and again at 7pm-8pm. I wonder if they planned those times because of our meeting at the Postal Workers Union on the 30th at 2pm? Well, if I go to only one meeting that day, guess Caesars Palace will have to wait.
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Yes, we saw the postings as well. They did have a lot of meetings scheduled, so we doubt they tried to interfere with our meeting on the 30th, but you never know. Also, it is a property-wide meeting, and not just targeting the Dealers. We would advise that everyone attend the company meeting, but ONLY if it does not interfere with you coming to the meeting we are having on the 30th, as we feel our meeting is more important and will have a longer lasting effect on your career as a whole.
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:45:15 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #465 A Caesars Palace Dealer 1-27-08:
I would like to be able to get PTO for all sick days taken, not just 3 per year.
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We like it! We know that at one time if you were out on an extended illness CP forced us to use all of our vacation time before we could collect disability. It is unfortunate that anyone has to be sick at all, but we are exposed on a daily basis to customers who come to our tables carrying their airborne illnesses with them. To punish the Dealers because of what they may have contracted from our customers just doesn't seem right. On top of it, they even have the nerve to give us points for being sick from the very first sick call we make.
Soon, we will be getting Contract Survey Forms out to every Dealers at CP. We are getting all of our ducks in a row right now. People, please remember it has only been four weeks since our election, and during that time we had two major holidays.
Everyone please come to the meeting on Wednesday, and see exactly what is going to be our future with the TWU. We know many may be "busy", but what is more important to you, the "busy" reason, or you entire future of your career?
See ya's at the meeting ;)
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:45:59 PM
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ARCHIVED Post #466 A Caesars Palace Dealer 2-2-08:
Okay now we have a contract negotiating committee, so what's next? When will we have an election for shop stewards and when do negotiations begin? Getting anxious here. I would also like to say that I like the changes being made on the website but want to know if Caesars Palace will be getting their own website back or not.
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Thanks for dropping in!
Well, you have already stated what will be "next" in the process. We will be scheduling negotiations within the next few weeks. There are tentative dates already set, but everything still needs confirmation (we need to ensure all parties are available on the specified dates).
If anyone wants to start submitting what they would like to see in our contract, please feel free to write us with your suggestions and an explanation of the issue(s).
As for the Shop Stewards, we hope to have nominations and elections for the permanent Stewards very soon. It may take a few more weeks to get it all coordinated, but rest assured, we are working/planning on it. If anyone would like to be a Shop Steward, please contact us. Keep in mind though that there will be a lot of work involved and a lot of educating, all on your time.
We are glad you like the changes to the website! The "movement" is growing very fast and we are trying to keep up with it all here. As for the Dealers of Caesars Palace having their own website, we are not sure yet. We think that it may be best if we continue on here on the Local 721 website so that the Dealers from other casinos can watch us progress.
Remember everyone, Rome wasn't built in a day and a Contract will not be written overnight. We want to make sure we get it all right the first time, so please be patient knowing that we are progressing and in the meantime we have "locked in" Status Quo, which is basically a contract in itself.
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 7:49:49 PM
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Post #467 A Caesars Palace IHO 2-8-08:
To all dealers who are battling for our futures:
There has still been some talk about the wait and see theory and anger over the stolen tokes at Wynn, but there are many more ways to steal our income than toke redistribution. Dealers have been being stolen from for many years without taking into account the scared line Mr. Wynn carried the corporate flag over.
When every industry and every employee in America is getting a wage "cost of living" increase, and the most profitable industry ignores its dealers, that is just like walking in our front doors and stealing from us.
When corporations whom make money off it's employees health care premiums, raise those premiums and decrease its benefits, that is stealing right from our pockets.
When they find ways of taking our sick days and our holidays, that is stealing from our families.
When we are cheated out of overtime we are being stolen from.
When we are forced to work our days off, our dignity is stolen from us.
Marilyn Winn stole from everyone when she came up with the idea to cut everyone's 401Ks in half. She was rewarded with her BIG JOB and MR. Loveman received a big bonus, while our families futures were stolen from.
There are many more like Marilyn Winn, with ingenious ideas of ways to steal from the dealers, and they plan on being rewarded for it.
Please remember as you are all going trough your own organizing campaigns, these corporations have no problem lying cheating, and breaking laws to be able to continue stealing from you.
The Hotels have spent Millions on professional liars and cheaters and have given them free reign over their properties.
Remember, we are professional skilled laborers and deserve to be treated as such.
A Caesars Palace War Survivor.
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And those are the F-A-C-T-S!
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